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Street Fighter Profile: Who Is Captain Chris? Expert or Not?
37 CommentsDavid D’Antonio analyzes the fight instruction of Captain Chris in this video clip.
There are times when someone says all of the right things, they will promise you the world. Promises of the ultimate defense techniques, fear no one, walk safely at night…BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!
Could this be the case of “Captain Chris”? …captain of what I have not a clue, but none the less, this is what he calls himself. (Sounds tough I suppose.)
On his website he shows a video clip that is full of tactical flaws which may very well get an unsuspecting and naive individual hurt or killed on the street. This guy talks a good game, however, when it comes time to deliver the goods, he has been weighed, he has been measured and he has been found wanting!
His credentials on his website read as follows, AND I QUOTE:
My name is Captain Chris… I am an unarmed combat instructor and self defense specialist. I hold black belts in 5 different martial arts, a U.S. Gold Medal in Grappling, and my students include professional assassins, international mercenaries, The U.S. & U.K. Special Forces and hundreds of elite military and law enforcement agents at the local, state and federal level.
Notice his gold medal in grappling, very trendy indeed. His students include professional assassins…please dude! Anyone who would be training such people WOULD NOT be advertising it!
The tactical errors I see are as follows:
1: First he tells the student to “hit wherever you can” with the “judo chop” using any portion of the arm from the tip of the finger to the elbow. This chop is one of the worst techniques you can use.
Your hand will break if you chop at someones head with it. We are talking average people here, not some 25 year karate guy with hands of steel. (See karate coconut video in a previous post of this blog). This techniques is best used on soft fleshy areas.
2: No mention of vital targeting is made. Sure just hit something and pray it will work. GREAT STRATEGY!!!
3: The attacker never actually attacks and just falls down. NOT VERY REALISTIC. What ever happened to reality based fighting being real? Your attacker on the street is not going to be so compliant.
4: The student is taught to turn inwards towards the attacker. Bad idea. Turning inwards towards the attacker literally puts you in the WORST POSSIBLE POSITION in a fight. You don’t want to be squared off with an attacker. You are prone to being grabbed, pinned against a wall, in addition to having to contend with the threat of all four attacking limbs!
5: You have no clue who is behind you, or what they have as far as a weapon. Turning out and away places you in a great position to run if needed, in addition you are out of the reach of a grab. Turning in the way the Captain tells us, places our kidneys in perfect place to be stabbed.
6: He teaches the double chin jab to the female student. Why not go immediately for the throat!??! And the “marching” repeated knees to the groin, the first strike will double the attacker over in most cases making any subsequent knee strikes very difficult to land. Why not teach how to create a domino effect? Throat, groin, double the attacker up and grab the back of the head using a second knee to the face….break them down!!!!
7: Again, the attacker does not attack or resist.
8: The attacker is supposed to be attacker her while she is getting into her car. Why is he attacking her front and not from the side? This would be more realistic and conducive of scenario based, pressure tested training.
Hey, don’t take my word for it. Go check out his entire web site yourself, and you be the judge:
http://www.closecombattraining.com/cctraining/
So there ya have it folks, some experts, are….some are not. YOU need to make a conscientious decision as to how you will decide to learn techniques that may, or may not, save your ass!!!
As always:
Be Safe & Keep It Real

David D’ Antonio
C.U.T.S. Critical Urban Tactical Strategies
Leave me your comments here. Thank you.
Published on July 12, 2009 · Filed under: Street Fighter Profile; Tagged as: Captain Chris, martial arts, self defense, self protection, street fighting
37 Responses to “Street Fighter Profile: Who Is Captain Chris? Expert or Not?”
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True to the hitting the fleshy parts where the “chop” may be affective. Okay Captain Insaino, this is a bunch of bunk but the fact that he’s getting airtime and I;m here commenting on him is a bit disturbing to me but then again it’s all about marketing. If you were in a car will be attacked from the side but for the sake of his ULTIMATE system and the excellent techniques it has to be from the front or else it’ll show the gigantic size whole in his system. What about side stepping? What if I did that? The whole CHOP-O-MATIC response is stupendo. After 5 black belts and military training, THIS is the best you came up with? Really? And Special Forces are coming to you for training? They are better off getting videos and playing with that. A chin jab is not a bad idea good friend David but it would be good doubled with a throat strike. This course is suicidal at best a waste of money at worse. Captain Caveman should give it up and start baking cookies because I dont bite his teachings.
Neil Neazer of ROUGHHOUSE TACTICS
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Neil:
Absolutely bro, his double ching jad is weak at best, which is why I was saying a throat strike would be the call of the day in this case.
This nuttbag needs to hand it up.
I would hate to see the assasins he has supposedly taught!
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I meant to type “chin jab”…my mistake
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admin said on July 15th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
David, you are funny. “I would hate to see the assassins he has supposedly taught!” Well, I think that I have found one of them. Did you see the post previous post on the coconut chopping karate champion? Thanks to him and the Captain, he has rid all of Europe of every evil coconut that has ever walked the streets of France, Italy and Germany. So don’t laugh.
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Ronin Kayne said on August 18th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Gentlemen,
I have read your comments and would like to add that it is apparent you are both “trained” in some kind of martial art or some kind of combative sport. It is obvious that neither of you have actually looked, in depth, at the principles being described. I have and would like to offer some insight.
I’m 41 years old, 6ft tall, and have weighed between 220 and 235 since I was around 18 years old. Over the years I’ve lifted weights & been a very physical person and unfortunately I have acquired some injuries over the years. Presently, I get about 9 hours of exercise in every week. I’ve been told that I have a linebacker’s build and that has served me well over the years to avoid confrontations. Even still, I have had some “altercations” and have always been aware that, in this violent world we live in, there may come a time when someone, either my size, or bigger, or a group of individuals might feel inclined to cause me or my loved ones injury or worse.
Because of deep spiritual convictions I have always stayed away from long term exposure to martial arts or combative sports training, however, I have taken a few lessons here and there, watched a bunch of videos (Krav Maga, Brazilian jiu jitsu) to pick up some tools that might be useful if someone was to attack me. But I still wondered “Will it be enough?” It’s frustrating to think that you might not be able to protect the people you love, especially if you’re faced with some thug who might have some kind of training in boxing, or street fighting, or whatever.
A realization came to me in 2001 while I was watching Tim Burton’s “Planet Of The Apes” with Mark Wahlberg. In one scene, two gorillas went at it and just started pounding on each other until one of them was dead. There was no technique, no fancy grabs, no gis, and no mats, just pure, non-target specific, feral brute force. (At the time, I didn’t know that I was looking at gross motor movment in action) I thought to myself “Wow, if a gorilla ever attacked a human that way there would be no way to defend…hey, wait a minute, if a HUMAN attacked another human that way…there would be NO WAY to defend against it!” I started looking for something that mimicked that kind of movement, but there was nothing.
I went to a couple of martial arts guys and asked if such a technique was viable and they all told me “Nah, that would never work.” So, I took an introductory lesson at a Krav Maga studio and tried the “Gorilla pounding” I saw in the movie on one of the guys that was holding a pad for me. The force of the impact kept driving the guy back and I could tell that he was having a hard time keeping the pad up. I knew that if there had been no pad he would not have been able to square off or mount ANY kind of defense against the non-stop pounding. At the end of the session the guy holding the pad was out of breath and said “Damn! What kind of training do you have!?” I didn’t realize it, but I had discovered the power of the “Edge Of Hand” that Captain Chris teaches even though I didn’t know that’s what it is called. It is not just the hand it is the ENTIRE ARM, which if you watch gorillas as they fight is what they are using.
In December of 2008, I was in CA training in some Urban Dance techniques and my instructor who happened to be a Brazilian Jiu Jistsu player decided to teach me a couple of things. When he got me on the ground I started twisting my body and throwing him around by using gross motor movement (I still did not know that’s what it was called). He was convinced that I had been through some kind of training, but in reality, I was just doing anything I could to get him off of me!
Then one day, while trying to teach my wife how to handle a situation, she got frustrated and said “I’ll NEVER remember any of this! Isn’t there something simple that I can learn so I can get away in any situation?” I realized then that if I was ever going to feel confident that my wife could take care of herself if she was ever assaulted I would have to find something that would be easy to remember, simple to teach, and effective in any situation regardless of a person’s size or weight. Essentially I was looking for something that my 5ft 2 inch wife could use to take down a 6ft, over 200lb guy. And then I found Captain Chris’ site by coincidence.
One of my dance students told me some time ago that she was assaulted and raped when she was younger. After going through the material I decided to teach her Close Combat system so she could take care of herself now that she is in college. After only a few hours we covered the material in the DVDs and during practice of how to get out of a two handed choke/collar grab, she clocked me in the jaw with a elbow shot that sent me reeling! The fortunate thing is that she wasn’t really TRYING to hurt me. I’m pretty sure that if she had put all of her body torque into that elbow she would have knocked me down, even though I’ve got about 80 lbs on her! After another session I came home with my arms sore from trying to block her “edge-of-hands.” She is only 18 or 19 years old and I have no doubt that she can take down a 41 year old, 235 lb guy in a matter of seconds!
What Captain Chris talks about is the reality of what happens to the human body in “fight of flight” mode when the heart is racing at over 175 beats per minute. I just taught a lesson yesterday where all I did was yell and shake a student for a few seconds and her face turned beet red because of all the blood rushing to her head and all she could do was stand there and stutter for about thirty seconds because her heart was pounding. The worst part is I told her I was going to do it and it STILL immobilized her. THAT is what Piazzo is talking about. In a street scenario, freezing for even a few seconds could get you hurt or killed. At that heart rate the average person can’t even dial 911, much less remember how to punch or kick. I’ve been in that moment and have talked to other honest “trained” guys that were taken by surprise and they relate how they could not understand why their hands wouldn’t close to make a fist because their heart was racing so fast. Gross motor movement is all you have at that time. I’ve watched guys beating on each other with wide arc swinging arms because of fear induced stress.
Let’s face it, as men we are naturally aggressive and know that at any time we might have to square off against someone. However, most of us know that we really won’t have to as long as we exude “alpha-ism.” The average woman, or man for that matter, who has never been in a dojo or never stepped into a ring, or sparred with someone is the more likely candidate to be attacked by some knucklehead in the street. Most people don’t spend years training their bodies and minds for “that moment” and they really can’t. All they’ll have if they are attacked is a racing heart and gross motor skills. Why not give them a handful of non-target specific tools that they don’t have to pass a “dan exam” to master and that might give them a fighting chance.
What I find interesting is that most of the comments made about this “simple” system by martial artists are disparaging to say the least. As with all things people pick things apart and then try to discredit because the author is trying to make a living. I find it interesting because in his program he does not encourage anyone who is currently training in a cultural fighting art or combative sport to discontinue or replace that training with his. Instead he acknowledges the value of those lessons and merely says “Add these tools to your arsenal…just in case in an emergency that roundhouse kick or spinning backhand punch isn’t working for you.” Captain Chris is not teaching people how to fight, he is teaching how to think and use their natural body movement to give them an advantage so they can survive an attack.
He is not the only person teaching these 7 “simple” tools.
http://www.7most.com/Thanks for your time,
Ronin Kayne
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admin said on August 18th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dear Mr. Kayne,
Yours is a most impassioned, elegant and well-expressed defense of Captain Chris. I applaud you. We do however, as you mention, advocate strongly gross motor street tactics much like the two gorillas that you mentioned.
I have asked both David D’Antonio and Neil Neazer to respond to your comment. They are the ones most indicated for an apt reply.
Again, thank you for the time to comment.
Respectfully,
Charles Prosper
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Mr Kayne:
I will agree that your defense of Captain Chris is very well stated and well thought out, however, I need to point out several things that you had written which cause me concern.You make numerous mentions of brazilian ju jutsu, dojo and such. You also state that you purchased a bunch of DVD’s (including the Captains) and learned from there.
I personally have 31 years of solid training in various martial arts disciplines (Ninjutsu, TKD, aikido, Krav Maga) as well as real world experience as a bouncer, body guard and private security and loss prevention plain clothes , just to name a few things. I grew up in one of the roughest parts of Philadelphia, and have worked in some of the roughest clubs and bars. I have seen my share of scaps, and been in my share as well.
I wont lie like many do and go on to tell you I have thousands of street fights and have crippled more that one man, those kinds of claims are ridiculous at best. But I will say I have been in fights.
I did not learn from videos like you. My skill is not theory like yours. My students come to me because they know what they are getting was born out of real world experience.
You mention your Krav Maga experince with you gorilla pounding the pad being held. I bet it sent the guy holding the pad reeloing backwards. I have no doubt it did.
Answer me this:
DID HE MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO RESIST YOU , COUNTER YOU, MOVE OUT OF THE WAY OR ANY OTHER “REAL” TYPE OF MOVEMENT? Or did he simply hold the pad and let you wail it. Im sure it was the latter of the two.
Do you think some thug on the street will allow you to pound him “gorilla style” without doing something back to you. Maybe pull out a gun or knife?
Your female friend who clocked you with an elbow…were you resisting, did she keep on attacking when she had you stunned/
If you did not resist her, or if she did not learn to follow up….then your training is lacking and therefor will get you killed in a real fight.
Train real, resisting opponents and continuous attack against a resisting opponent….sounds like you have half (maybe) of the equation.
Im not trying to bash you my man, just trying to make you see the reality of REALITY!
You say you have dabbled in the fighting arts (whether they are reality based or sport or traditional) off and on. Would you trust a brain surgeon to operate on your wife if he dabbled off and on in his field. Why then are you teaching people you love these techniques when you have no real know how in what is rteal fighting and what is “boxed and packaged nicely” for sale fighting.
Just in reading your post I see several very scarey tactical training mistakes thhat will leave you for the worse if you apply what you are doing under a stressful combat situation.
Im glad you have faith in what you do…..but the guys who built the Titanic had faith that their ship was unsinkable…….
I look forward to your comments
As always
be safe and keep it real -
Mr.
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Mr. Ronin Kayne. Can you use Mr. Captain Videos “techniques” in a car? No. Why? Because it uses too much space. Did you bother to look at my website on GROSS MOTOR and how it pertains to the human body? If you lift your arms up in the air and drop it, it signals the attacker to move. Do you see what I’m about to get at? The 1st thing is to be ABLE to access your fighting tools. Depending on the situation, you may not be able to. The fight or flight (really freeze, fight or flight: read up on it) is a part of the situation before you actually do anything. Then you have to be emotionally, physically and mentally ready to perform any type of aggressive attack. Techniques? They turn to s*&^ when violent pressure comes into the equation. I can tell you for a fact. Here’s an example:
I just did a course for weapons protection and then a instructors course in the S.P.E.A.R. SYSTEM in Virginia Beach. We had to do a last “fight” in order for us to pass. I was in the fight house and waited for the scenario to begin (waiting for my “attacker”). When he came around the corner yelling “MOTHER F*&^%$” I quickly froze before I can get a shot off. Now Captain Kris neglects this in his training and so do a lot of other systems/styles. Chris does NOT teach you how to think because if that was the case, he would instruct PRINCIPLES instead of TECHNIQUES. Correct? Showing principles allows the students to apply these guidelines to any martial art of their practice not only have application in this particular system. Like you mentioned on an average woman & man (I would stress woman because they are weaker and that is by human bio-mechanics and physiology; that should be in your equation when you are doing self preservation) because if she can do it with the least amount of effort than a man can do it too. I understand the author is trying to make a living but if my wife were to practice this system and she gets raped or worse, should I be okay with that even if this system sucks? I mean hay, he’s making a living, right? How would you feel if it was your wife of the scenario I just mentioned about my wife? Would it be okay and would it be him “JUST MAKING A LIVING?”
Talking about the EDGE OF HAND, how will that help in a low ceiling situation? A car? On a bed? On a bench? Being held up off the ground? On the floor? Get back to me on that. -
Ronin Kayne said on August 21st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Great arguments gentlemen,
So, let me see if I undrstand this correctly…unless I have 30 years of solid training in Ninjutsu, TKD, aikido, Krav Maga, or a belt of some kind I have no hope. Is that it?
How do you know that I don’t resist when I teach my students? How do you know that I have never had “real” fights? or faced multiple attackers at the same time? How do you know that I haven’t sparred with individuals who have JKD, Aikido, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Escrima, and Boxing under THEIR belts? How could you know? You don’t. You’re ASSUMING that I have never faced others in combat. And you are mistaken.
You know, I walked into an MMA studio last year and I asked the owner specifically for a handful of attacks that would work in any situation. He very nicely tried to sell me $650.00 in lessons. I would have been happy to pay that money if I wasn’t sure that at the end of that run I wasn’t going to be told that I needed to buy another package because, of course “how could I learn to defend myself in ten lessons…” right…
The fact of the matter is that in my experience, all systems are “for sale.” EVERYTHING is a business. So one guy, or several guys go out and create a simple system and they are scam artists trying to “get rich” because they sell DVD instructionals. But the Krav Maga, Tae Kwon Do, MMA Studios, Karate schools, etc. are not even though they get you to commit for YEARS and THOUSANDS of dollars. No, because they are “real” and “effective.”
One of my dance students is a 14 year old black belt in Tang Su Do. She has been training since she was four, so, ten years of training. We were in my studio one day when I decided to test her without letting her know. Without warning I yelled really loud and rushed her. Care to guess what happened?
This solidly trained, ten year Tang Su Do student, after all that practice, all those tournaments, all those trophies, all that board breaking and all those beautifully complicated pre-arranged attack /defense /counterattack sequences…DID NOT try to block, or kick or strike. Instead she screamed and covered her face like a the 14 year old she is and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while I bear hugged her and dragged her around the room.
I wonder why all of her training failed to engage? If after TEN YEARS of training she couldn’t even get off a simple front kick before I grabbed her, what hope do all of the “untrained” people have? Right.
The fact is she froze. Like anyone else that is suddenly startled & whose heart rate jumps to 145-180 bpm she lost cognitive ability, fine and complex motor control & natural submissiveness set in.
She was taught an art form based in martial theory. When the chips are down it won’t make a difference because her heart will be racing so fast that she will go into fight or flight mode and she won’t be able to remember any of it. It is for THAT reason that many “trained” fighters have their butts handed to them in a street fight. Perhaps she needs another 21 years of solid training before she will be proficient. The average mother of three doesn’t have three decades to train so she can have a fighting chance to protect herself from some idiot that’s trying to rape her or hurt her kids.
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, more than 246,180 rapes or sexual assaults occurred in 2000 occurred among females (Department of Justice 2001). One out of every six American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study estimated that between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years (Fisher 2000). These are the facts.
My student is leaving to head back to college on Monday. During her last lesson I came at her full force. I grabbed her by the hair, pushed her into the wall, choked her with both hands, bear hugged her, head locked her, grabbed her every way she could be grabbed, I threw her to the ground and landed on her in full mount position, I got between her legs and did EVERYTHING that would happen to her during a “real” attack. Last week, before we began, she knew NOTHING, however, unlike my Tang Su Do black belt, this girl fought back and followed through EVERY time. I have the bruises, scrapes, and bite marks to prove it. I know she will never be raped again. And THAT is all that is important to me.
She will NEVER forget what I have taught her because she will go back and teach ALL of her sorority sisters what I have taught her. NO, I did not teach her to fight, I taught her to think and keep her wits about her, even if she is afraid. I taught her to NEVER stop hitting, NO MATTER WHAT, until her attacker is down. I taught her to NEVER comply with an attacker, but to become the attacker. I gave her a handful of tools that are not hard to remember so that she can push an attacker back until she either slams or stomps his head into the ground. I taught her to NEVER turn her back on an attacker. I taught her that THERE ARE NO RULES, NO REGULATIONS, NO REFEREES, NO TIMEOUTS, AND NO BELLS; it’s not about points or certificates, or applause, or recognition, or achievement, IT’S ABOUT SURVIVAL! I taught her to bite, spit, scratch, gouge, and do WHATEVER it takes to win. I taught her to fight like her life depends on it, BECAUSE IT DOES. I didn’t make her into a martial “artist” I made her into a warrior.
Don’t misunderstand, gentlemen, I respect the fact that you have dedicated so many years to training in these arts and are no doubt proficient at what you do. By virtue of that fact you are protected. The chances that the average thug would select you for an attack are low because when you are trained you radiate it. Your confidence and energy surround you like an aura of power. And now, so does my student. And when she is done, so will her sorority sisters. They will stand differently. They will be more aware. They always keep their hands above the person in front of them. They may be taken by surprise, but at least they will not be “helpless.” By virtue of this fact they will no longer be first choice TARGETS.
I will end with this:
Two celebrity friends of mine have been training & teaching in several styles of “submit” fighting for nearly 20 years and who are around fighting ALL THE TIME were recently in France on tour.
Upon their return to the States one of them called me to tell me about their trip. During a premier it seems that some disagreement arose between them and the promoters of the event as well as members of the promoters entourage. In short my two friends were attacked.
Long story short, these two brothers who are well trained, very knowledgeable men who have YEARS of fighting experience, found themselves fighting ONE guy who had pinned one of them on the ground (who could not get up) EVEN though the second brother tried to get him to release the first brother by applying a choke. He told me that he was trying his best and could not get that guy to release his brother no matter how hard he was choking the guy. Finally, after what seemed like an eternity the guy finally started to go limp, but not before one of his buddies broke a chair on my friend’s back.
Me? I would have hammer handed the guy in the jaw till he passed out instead of turning back to his co-conspiritors. But hey, we can all make assessments AFTER the fact when we are not in “that” moment.
And as far a MY wife is concerned…well, I feel a swell of pity of the guy that makes the mistake of trying get at her. The cops will be finding pieces of him all over the place.
I know…you don’t approve. But that is okay. I am a warrior. I approve of myself. And if its me or some thug…I know what I KNOW, so, my money is on me.
Respectfully,
Ronin Kayne
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And as far a MY wife is concerned…well, I feel a swell of pity of the guy that makes the mistake of trying get at her. The cops will be finding pieces of him all over the place. I’m glad you see you dont need years of practice to really learn how to fight. Now that doesn’t answer my question about the author’s right to “MAKE A LIVING”; teaching something that doesn’t work. Especially under stress when 2 or more thugs or murderers attack. I use the PLUS 1 theory: always assume and train for an attacker PLUS 1 more. How would you feel I ask about your wife and not mine NOT WOULD YOU DO. Please read carefully of the question I asked. A lot of styles work in a training hall with rules and AC blasting during the summer and heat during the winter. Because of complex skills in a stressful altercation those skills will go out the window unless you can slow the attacker down with primal actions THEN go to your complex motor skills. KRAV MAGA utilizes POWER SHOTS…all shots from the rear for power and the problem with that my friend is that they are telegraphic movements. All styles are nice for traditional sake but for real self defense you can bet you’ll be fighting for your life.
I also asked if you could use Captain Chris’ system in confined quarters. You have not responded to that either. What if I had a rotator cuff problem and can’t call upon my ROCK’EM SOCK’EM ROBOT technique?Thats true self defense. You are attacked anywhere by anybody. Not to mention his self defense is linear and doesn’t have lateral movements. Yes I know, drive the attacker back. WHAT IF……………? Murphy the action, moment, technique. See what could go wrong then work on the problem. Styles dont do that. They have their own pre arranged way of dealing with it.
You mentioned sir that you teach your students to think. How? In what aspect? Are you teaching principles like I mentioned that can be integrated into styles. Or “JUST KEEP YOUR HANDS UP AND BOB & WEAVE?” which is a poor way to live and a great way to die. I do not teach combatives sport I teach survival and I do it outdoors, in a staircase, elevator, in parks so my system is a bit different than yours and I’m really trying to stay clear of MY STYLE IS BETTER THAN YOURS rant, but do you see what I’m getting at RONIN? Let me give you a small list and truly ask yourself if your style can be accessed in this list:BUS * CAR * TRAIN (MOVING) * CLUBS * PLANE (VERY TIGHT AISLES THEY HAVE) * STAIRWELLS- ON THE STEPS * RESTROOMS.
How about on :
ICE * GRAVEL * HILL * WATER *And this is just the basic list because there is more. The story you mentioned about your buddies getting slapped is very true as in a realistic fight (dont tell me you would go to the ground in a street fight please!!!) . Because of the primal rage and actions they were slapped. Martial arts DOES NOT teach you to deal with that type of attack and if they do it’ll be the way the style “feels” it is to be done so they could show that their style works. Do you know how many magazines I have seen wit ha Japanese style fight against a “boxer” and the boxer is throwing a punch the way a Japanese practitioner of that style would throw it and not a real boxer? Hows that for effective?
Can your system and Capt. Chris’ system work on a guy who is high on drugs and is now almost impervious to pain? Because their min is not set to normal and the pain signals are out of whack when you strike they are not affected. Have you tried that with the female student of yours going off to college or the other young lady? Can they fight from their backs and not just jiujitsu or whatever?The reason your student froze was because of a system overload…too much info at once which is the attack at full force. Most, if not, all systems/styles (mostly styles) will crack under extreme pressure. Under certain circumstances you may be able to call upon your martial training and again certain and it may be an officer, security guard or anyone within those fields and thats as long as they are using their awareness and most likely the situation was not that severe. And it’s: FREEZE, FIGHT OR FLIGHT. FREEZE is first and it’s always there. ALWAYS. Then the dreaded FIGHT or FLIGHT. Covering the face is an embedded primal protective reaction that we ALL have. You have done it. I have done it. You can’t tell me otherwise. Because students are taught in a sport module and not a real fight module that is why she failed as others will. Scenarios should be incorporated in the teachings which I am sure you do not do. Thats important because thats when they’ll see what they can do and what they should work on. It gauges their abilities to get into the fight. Engage when needed. Do what is needed. When they do it in a scenario at different speeds starting slow then ramping it up with a “GOOD BAD GUY” not feeding her the easy shots then and only then can they begin to learn and have a belief in their style from their training. I have a student, male 24 & overweight. He was attacked in a subway car here in New York @ 2a.m. 4 guys approached him and his drunken buddy from both sides of the car. Now they were not crowing around him so you know but 1 did get close and asked for a $1. He knew what this meant but decided to give him the $1 from his sweater pocket. As soon as he was about to give it to him (arm being out reached) the thug grabbed my students arm. My student jumped out of his seat and slammed the attacker to the wall. Another guy can from his left and out went the left elbow. A 3rd went for the bear hug and got some of it on. A “rising headbutt” (no such thing. He stomped on the attackers foot and after just stood up and slammed the right side of his head into the bottom part of the guys face). The other nutbag ran. Now my point? We never practiced and left outward elbow. Just elbow shots. The Foot stomp & headbutt? We played with the idea 1 day but we dont do techniques just scenarios that prepare you for the real thing hence my story. OVERWEIGHT!! GUIDELINES!!! You see my point RONIN KAYNE? The train was moving at that! Feel free to look at my website. I await your next comment thank you much.
Neil Neazer
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Ronin Kayne said on August 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Neil,
I took a look at your site. I understand where you’re coming from. We are on a very similar track. The movements I teach my students are very compact and can be used in close quarters and would work in any environment. The movements are basic gross motor. Many elbow shots, similar to what you are doing. The movements I’m teaching can be done from a seated position and are essentially the same tools you use standing up. The moves are drilled over and over till they become second nature. We work at top speed from go. I explain slow a few times then we go all out. Because the movement is simple it does not take an eternity to learn.
Stance is always staggered so the student can’t be pushed back or knocked to the ground. I DO NOT teach students to go to the ground and I would not want to go to ground with an attacker unless it happens unintentionally.
I teach that where the head goes the body will follow. So, we control the head with palm strikes and chin jab. We don’t respond to what an attacker does we respond to the direction they are coming from. Front, back, left, right, diagonal front left or right, diagonal back left or right. The response is always the same no matter what direction an attacker comes from.
Stop their forward movement with a kick to shin, midsection, groin. Before your foot hits the ground we drive forward into the attacker with short & long hacks using the whole arm and elbows. The whole attacker is the target. Even if the attacker puts up their arms to block we attack the arms hitting the muscles in the forearms and side of the arms to injure the tendons that control the fingers/hands.
Objective is always to drive the attacker back onto their heels and off balance. Ultimately to drive their head into the ground. As you show in several of your videos we take the attacker to the ground. The difference between us is that I teach my girls to either follow the down and slam their head into the ground or stomp their head once they are down.
If they are bear hugged – Sprawl to prevent being picked up, while lifing the arm to break the hold and IMMEDIATELY drive in with hacks and elbows, palm strikes to the head to drive them to the floor. On a personal note, anyone who tries to bear hug me will be immediately head butted and will more likely have an ear bitten off before they know what hit them.
Any time we are grabbed we know the grab is not the attack it is the prelude to the attack, either the yank to pull us off balance or the punch that is coming. As soon as an attacker grabs a wrist we deliver a palm strike to the opposite shoulder to stop the coming punch and IMMEDIATELY attack the hand that grabbed our wrist with hacks to the arm which again, injures the muscle tissue and tendons that control the fingers. Then DRIVE into the attacker-control the head, post the back to bend them & drive them into the concrete.
I also teach that hip check roll in the event someone does end up in full mount position on the ground (last resort). I teach that you need to get to your feet ASAP to end the attack. If the student is knocked to the ground while the attacker is still standing then they are taught to keep their legs between them and their attacker.
This is the gist but certainly not all of what I teach and, believe it or not, what Captain Chris goes into in his program. The extensive program he sells.
We are saying the same things differently. Now that I’ve seen your site I see better what you are talking about and I agree with your philosphy of non-complex “bare bones” concepts that can be used in any situation.
I would even be willing to take your course to see the differences between executions.
There is an story of a young man who wanted to gain the ultimate knowledge. So he traveled abroad to find what he was looking for. After many years of travel and study he came to a village where he was told that an ancient hermit that lived on a nearby mountain possessed the ultimate knowledge he was seeking. So, the young man headed to the mountain and began his climb. Near the summit he reached a plateu upon which he found a small structure that he knew must be the home of the hermit.
He knocked at the door and heard a small voice inside bid him enter. Inside the spartan hovel was a frail looking old man. The old man was dressed in sack cloth and had almost no teeth remaining. In a weak voice he asked the visitor “What do you seek?”
“I seek the ultimate knowledge” said the young man.
“Ah…” said the old man with a smile. “Then I shall make some tea.”
As the old man worked he asked questions of the younger man. “What have you learned thus far? Where have you been?”The young man proceed to tell the ancient one of all the schools he had studied at, and all of the lands he had visited. And the water boiled. The young man spoke of the temples he had seen and the oceans he had crossed as the old man handed him a tea cup. And the young man recounted the many books he had read and the many scholars and learned men he has associated with. And the old man poured the tea as the young man went on and on and the tea overflowed and scalded the young man’s hand. And the young man screamed “Stupid old man! What are you doing?”
The old man smiled and replied simply “Young man, if your cup is already full how will you ever fit anything else in it?”
The moral is that we must always leave room for further learning. We cannot look at the perspective of another with judgement based on our own experience in our own universe. It is only when we stop judging and start trying to see from another perspective that we grow. Your system is not BETTER than Captain Chris’ and his is not BETTER than yours or mine. It is not even “his” system according to him. What we have are merely DIFFERENT ways of dealing with similar scenarios. This is the ultimate knowledge – to learn. From everyone and every thing. Adapt what you learn into something that works for you. It was what Bruce Lee meant when he said “Be like water, my friend…”
By the way, are you in the Bronx? Is that Tracy Towers in the background of one of your pics?
Respectfully,
Ronin Kayne
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It is not TRACY TOWERS but CO-OP CITY. Glad you got a chance to peruse my site.
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Contact me. My contacts are on my website. Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Mr. Kayne,
Would you contact me at cprosper@prosperballoons.com. I would like to be a guest blog post contributor for RealStreetFightingMoves.com. If you have a small video clip of one of your essential techniques from 1 to 3 minutes and a paragraph or two of commentary, I would like to feature you. This is a well-visited blog, and it would mean great exposure for you, and it would of course enrich the content of this site. You are also welcome to include your link at the end of your blog post.
Regards,
Charles Prosper
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Toby Madden said on September 25th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
The basic strategies and utilization of gross motor philosophy is great especially if coupled with force manipulation, which everyone does inherently (as in tai-chi, which i practice on a daily basis now….AKA grace). After only 6 months of training in jeet kun do, my sensei told me I would need no further training. Why? He said “once one knows the basics (gross motor) and trains their body into grace, daily routines in slow motion (as in tai-chi) embed the philosophies into your muscles”..he suggested tai-chi (or Energy in Motion) to expand on my awareness of time even when we seem to move through jelly. (I’ll get to that)
I’ve kept my body in shape for 12 years (getting a little chubby now that I’m married, lol) by eating a primarily vegetarian diet, exercise in all daily activities, and clearing my mind when i wake up….this meditative daily routine keeps the muscles of the body and the mind completely relaxed even during adrenaline-pumping moments.
Chris’s tactics (as far as i can tell without watching his whole spiel) are the basis one needs to expand their reactionary potential during an adrenaline rush…knowing the basic motor functions of the body is one step; practicing them in a relaxed and unthinking state imprints them into your instinctual index and allows you to utilize them and improvise on them when you are in adrenaline mode
There are 2 modes of seeing time: the normal day-to-day detail-catching mode, and the slow motion effect experienced during adrenaline rush. What few people know is that the slowing affect can be used more efficiently when they live in a perpetually relaxed state, letting you react to detail rather than the whole situation (most people interviewed regarding the adrenaline rush say their actions were not the most efficient or effective they could have done, in hindsight)
Adrenaline is the body’s version of PCP: it shuts down your unnecessary functions like digestion and suppresses the immune system while systematically increasing fermentation in the muscles, making you stronger. When you slow, the extra oxygen hitting your brain causes an “alert” state that shuts down primary thinking processes, but ingrained processes (like those exercised in a relaxed state) are still accessible. So Chris’s system does work, but I would suggest practicing the motions with a totally clear mind every day and keeping the body fit (which everyone should do, anyway!)
Just my 2 cents
/Toby
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David D'Antonio C.U.T.S. Critical Urban Tactical Strategies said on September 25th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Toby:
My man, Im going to be very very blunt, so please take this as a helping yet stern hand.
Ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever:
1: been threatened with a gun, knife or other weapon
2: worked in a position that places you daily in harms way
3: faced multiple attackers
4: been in a real fight as an adult
5: trained under an instructor that has experience in any of the aboveNow ask your self this:
do you
1: train with a compliant training partner, or do they resist your techniques
2: do you train against a one punch frozen (as in punch and leve it there) technique
3: practice under stressful scenarios or use situaltional drills
4: practice precision and SPEED.Bro, here is the thing… You need to train the way you intend to SURVIVE. A bit of pain in training saves you a ton of pain in combat. If you train slowly, unrealisticly and to be blunt..tip toe pussy foot around in your training….you get dead in combat. You must train the way you intend to work in a stressful life and death situation.
There is no reality in a slowly practiced unrealistic pansy ass technie on the stree or the battlefield. Do you think that speed and precision just come to you because you trained to place the philosophy in your muscles….tell thatto the guy who has a knife to your thraot while his buddy has a gun to your wifes head ready to rape her….can you handle that situation. How about the guy car jacking you and your baby is in the back seat and your wife is next to you. His gun is to your head. What do you do. Tai chi push hands aint gonna work bro.I agree that real personal protection does not take a lifetime to learn, and after a short time you can be a very nasty streeet fighter, and that practicing often is a great idea to keep your techniques sharp…IF YOU TRAIN IN A REALITY BASED ART…AND DO SO WITH THE CORRECT MIND SET.
It seems like your on the right track, but found a bump in the road with some bad advice. So here is my 100 bucks worth in reply to your two cents.
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Toby Madden said on September 26th, 2009 at 9:04 am
My little post was not a full explanation…Let me clarify:
Firstly, yes i have been threatened with a knife, a baseball bat, and a stave; the stave was the worst.
Secondly, I worked at a gas station for graveyard shift but was never in danger (that I could tell)
Thirdly, I have been assaulted by a duo of idiocy but when asserting my confidence in the situation, made them go away.
Fourthly, Yes I have…the guy was twice my size, an old Vietnam vet, pissed off and drunk and I said something he didnt like, so he pushed me, and as he did i grabbed his hand and threw him into a cast iron stove which broke his jaw and dislocated his shoulder; all total reflex because i was in shock it was happening.
Fifthly, my sensei picked up jeet kun do in the 80s and was in the gulf war in the 90s, so i assume so.
For the second set of questions:
1. I periodically spar with my brother who has studied aikido for years
2. punch and leave it there? pressure training? if thats what you mean, yes
3. I train despite my daily stress levels, and we change scenery
4. I exercise in slow motion, i don’t spar in slow motion; i have always been fast, and my hands are very fast indeed. For precision, I practice Chinese broadsword; few weapons can be as precise as that (sword is an extension of your arm)
So in essence, without ego, i can say yes to your questions. If someone were to put a gun to my head while i was in my car, he would end up with his face pressed against my horn and his arm broken. So I can take care of me and mine. Above post was for Ronin, something he could use to help his wife
P.S. tai-chi is not a martial art, it’s a philosophy: When an opponent throws a punch, a kick, charges; he gives you his energy and you can do with it what you will. 4 ounces deflects 4000 lbs. Have you ever fought a master of tai-chi? you land few, if any, hits on them and usually end up throwing yourself around instead; that’s why i got into it.
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Fourthly, Yes I have…the guy was twice my size, an old Vietnam vet, pissed off and drunk and I said something he didnt like, so he pushed me, and as he did i grabbed his hand and threw him into a cast iron stove which broke his jaw and dislocated his shoulder; all total reflex because i was in shock it was happening.
NOT TO BASH THIS BUT…….He was drunk; not very hard to take care of; Vietnam vet; so? Not to disrespect them because I have respect for them but unless he was in ‘NAM @ 18 years old, not really scared and being in anything doesn’t really mean anything. It’s like you’re telling me you’re a BLACK BELT. SO? Unless it means something to you it won’t mean a thing.
1. I periodically spar with my brother who has studied aikido for years2. punch and leave it there? pressure training? if thats what you mean, yes
3. I train despite my daily stress levels, and we change scenery
4. I exercise in slow motion, i don’t spar in slow motion; i have always been fast, and my hands are very fast indeed
PUNCH & LEAVE IT THERE? For what? Thats a set up for failure. What does that do? How does that help?
CHANGE SCENERY? Do you train in a small stairwell? Dimly lit? A car? A moving car? A moving train( I have and have video to prove it!!)? JEET KUNE DO is a glorified kick boxing ART. It is no longer a freestyle system it once was. Because you train in styles and not real principles that apply to everything. A principle you can apply to anything that can fit anywhere is worth doing not only apply to that specific art.You exuded confidence thus thwarting 2 thugs. Ok but thats with everyone. If you look like a punk, you get punked. My wife did that and she’s 5′3.
I’m not here to bash you but some of the your posts actually screams at me to do so.
ADRENALINE DUMP. It enhances your system, super charges your body. tightens your muscles allowing you to withstand blows, NOT ALL, and continue because its a HUMAN DEFENSE SURVIVAL SYSTEM. Our body tightens, I’ll tell you what I mean by this, because when you get stabbed or cut, you bleed less until your dump subsides. Then if its a bad cut or stab you will start to hemorrhage more. Ever got hit and didnt feel it until later? TA-DA. Ever lifted something heavy but didnt seem like it and then try to do the same thing only to find out you can’t? The only way you will lose to a TAI CHI master is if you had to fight the way he fought. That goes with every planned fight. I guarantee that if I was enraged and he and I were I a fight h will have problems because;
1 They do NOT train for realistic fights
2 They dont train for realistic rage attacks
3 they can not perform on unbalanced grounds. They play indoors in a nice padded studio.
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http://www.roughhousetactics.us
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Toby Madden said on September 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
You seem a bit misinformed: Jeet kune do as practiced by military is not glorified art, it’s a “kill as quickly as possible, or render your opponent worthless in 3 seconds” discipline, and contains all the original Lee principles (born of a lifetime of study and meditation on the subject)..after i had learned all the principles and my sensei thought I didn’t need any more training due to my reaction time and diligence in exercises, I left and began studying the typical opposite: Tai chi.
Tai chi chuan does indeed have principles, and is usually the most powerful defensive martial fighting discipline when it is understood to it’s fullest extent; if you want a crash course on tai chi and it’s variety of styles (all adaptable to the person, or can be improvised on), check it’s wikipedia page; primarily, the only force exerted is deflective force; tai-chi training keeps the brain on detail check while experiencing an adrenaline rush; every force cries out to be manipulated and controlled by an outside source that recognizes it’s source and direction (punching at a 30+ psi stream of water will give you an idea, except imagine the water intercepting your fist and bending it back towards you…you should learn the sticky hands discipline sometime). There are 3 modes of exercise for it: slow-motion (clearing of the mind, conditioning the body to be able to withstand strains for long periods), yoga-like stretches (building endurance and elasticity), and isometrics (toning the muscles to balance forces)…every other exercise is a bonus (running for stamina, weight lifting for additional strength) and is suggested but not necessary. Having studied jeet kune do (original principles, which include tactical ninjitsu elements) and tai chi, I can say I can hold my hold on almost any non-extreme terrain. We won’t go into shattered glass walkways in this debate ; ).
Am I capable of taking on 3+ people at once? Likely not. The likely hood of that scenario is quite low…Honestly: few trained fighters can take on 3 or more even moderately trained fighters at once, especially if those fighters’ movements are cooperative of each other (which any group of fighters will be)….any fighter who claims they can defeat them, without prior knowledge of their opponents, is egotistical and, thus, overconfident *the true weakness*
The vet is my only adult fight (luck or exudation of confidence, whatever), my training with my brother has been strange places we end up in and decide to train in (from beach sand to forest to parking lots to trash-strewn alleyways)…my experiences have prepared me for dangerous situations, should any ever happen; I have checked your website out, and much of the stuff discussed is known to me. Am I a master? no, but real masters don’t claim they are anyway ; ) Competent? yes…confident? yes…Not overconfident: I have things worth fighting for, and I conditioned my body and my mind to deal accordingly with threats to those things; you cannot ask of anything more from a father and husband.
You say you are not here to bash, but rather than applaud or take note of good things in others’ posts you whip out your cock-meter and start measuring; this is not a cock competition; I tossed in some technical information for Ronin, and got a cock challenge. If you honor your discipline (anything is a discipline if you make it more than a hobby), you would not stoop to proclamations of sovereignty or superiority over someone who has no interest nor finds them impressive.
P.S. You forgot to mention that adrenaline rushes cause a stupefying effect on the body conditioning when it has not become instinct (alot harder to do than training in a variety of atmospheres and terrains) or the mind has not been conditioned to perform during the extreme atmosphere thus created; the story is indeed true: If someone does not go out of their way to train their mind to perform during crisis, they will not perform fast enough to make a difference.
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Hello and good day. Today I will NOT be implementing my COCK METER for this commentary debate. JKD is NOT, NOT ,NOT a kill or be kill art/system/combatives, whatever you would like to place it under as. I know because (GOD, here comes the COCK METER) I have trained in 2 schools of JKD here in NEW YORK CITY. I would like a statement where you can prove that JKD is taught to the military. Thats like saying that my system is taught to the military (AGAIN I HAVE VIDEO TO PROVE THAT I HAVE TRAINED A SMALL GROUP OF MILITARY INDIVIDUALS; COAST GUARD IN KODIAK ALASKA. As absurd as that may sound it is truth and look on my website to see it or youtube.) Look at JKD: THEY BOX, THEN KICK, THEN KICK BOX. Tell me when I am wrong here. Then they start to go from style to style showing you that STYLES WIN THE FIGHT. I have to say this: THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. Why you ask? I have an example: I work wit ha guy who is 6 ft 265 pounds. Now, this man can fight. He is a JUDO player. But he is one of those guys that, no matter what he trains in he’ll kick your ass. Anyone (well you know what I mean). Now if you have a small 150 5′5 man and uses his style against this man, he’s toast. Period. Gross motor sets and basic fight principles will work against him as long as you dont become your style which you believe you need to be. Now can this man fight JUDO. Yes. Does he need it. No. You bring up style after style here in this forum as if they were the secrets to self preservation. There are more people in the world that survived violent attacks without any form of martial art (this meaning traditional arts) than those that have survived. As for the adrenaline thing, you are BORN WITH NATURAL INSTINCTIVE MOVES TO SURVIVE. I bet you think I’m wrong. Guesssssss what IIIII haaaaave? An example. TADA. If you were jumped, even after a long session at the dojo, studio,kwoon, training hall, you will be scared and be startled, no? You know what happens when you are startled? You jump. Your hands almost automatically come up to protect your central command center……YOUR HEAD. I’m sure sense you read this on my site you already know this too because you said you basically know whatever I have mentioned on my site. This is A totally NATURAL HUMAN DEFENSE TACTIC that we are born with. Now back to what I was saying. You will jump and do pretty much what I just stated before you even go into your techniques. PHYSIOLOGY OVERRIDES COGNITIVE RESPONSES. Please tell me when I am wrong because, guess what? it is proven fact. Please take the time to read any book on the brain and our reflex, reactive, instinctual response. Have you ever heard of TONY BLAUER? He uses this as his main focus on real self defense BEFORE you even start to hit back. Cerebral training is key over physical training. No matter what “soft style” you practice and move your hands in circles, they will not teach this.
You sound, to me on this forum anyway, like to look at the flowing traditional, graceful, flute playing, “self defense” that you see in BLACK BELT magazine. Again because you look at styles over real, practical, common sense self defense. Oh, I almost forgot what I was telling you before. You will scratch, bite, poke, rake, spit, rip, tear and any other word I couldn’t think of to place here, before you get into your horse stance, crane stance, tiger stance, iron wall stance. You will not and I can prove it yet again. You feel I pull out the COCK METER here but everything I say here I can prove with no problem. I have studied, dabbled, in traditional arts and eclectic arts and self defense stuff and thats why I can say what I say here. Do I know it all? HELL NO. But I can point out bullshit pretty good though. I do research on my own and try it lab style and see will it work on WOMEN and then men. If SHE can do it I know I CAN do it because for the most part men are stronger than women. We just cant push bowling balls out our ass and still cook dinner but thats different.
Do I want people to find me impressive? NO. I want them to find that I am knowledgeable in what I instruct and show science behind everything I do so they can really see not just “LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE THIS IS THAT WAY IT IS FOR THE PAST 2000 YEARS AND IT WILL ALWAYS STAND THE TEST OF TIME AND BE SUPERIOR TO ALL OTHER STYLES”. Street fights are chaotic at worst and at best. You can not use grace on the street. I a tourney? Yes. Judges like to see that. The control. The flowing from 1 technique to the next using complex motor sets. Do you really feel that using COMPLEX motor sets in a street fight is best for you than gross motor sets? Gross motor sets we are born with so just use that and build on that. JKD is a mixture of complex skills (I dont recall any type of tactical ninjitsu elements stuff there at all and the 3 second thing? Not realistic but who am I to talk, eh). Complexity over practicality is just plain suicide. If you have to remember a formula that takes weeks to learn to maybe use in a fight for your life situation, that has to be thrown away.
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P.S. You forgot to mention that adrenaline rushes cause a stupefying effect on the body conditioning when it has not become instinct (alot harder to do than training in a variety of atmospheres and terrains) or the mind has not been conditioned to perform during the extreme atmosphere thus created; the story is indeed true: If someone does not go out of their way to train their mind to perform during crisis, they will not perform fast enough to make a difference.
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Get ready to have your world shattered TOBY.
Half true. If you do not practice under pressure, again I do this with my guys but I dont want to sound like the meter is brought back out, you will not be able to attack back quickly. But I have………..guess what again. An example:
There was a kidnapper who had his eye on a child that he was going to abduct. He went over to the child, grabbed the kids hand and proceeded to pull him. The childs friend ran over, BIT the mans hand creating pain causing his hand to instinctively open and let the child looses. The 2 kids ran away. Hey hey hey. What do we have here. I bet these kids trained hours upon hours to perform that 1 move just in-case they were to be abducted. INSTINCTIVE.
Want another 1? I knew you did so heres another 1.
A New York City bus driver got into a violent altercation by a passenger that ended up brandishing knife. Do you know what this bus driver did? He ended up over powering the man with the knife. Here’s a couple of much needed descriptions of these men.
BUS DRIVER: OLDER, NON ATHLETIC, CHUBBY
CRAZY MAN: YOUNG, CLOSE TO ATHLETIC BUILD
Did this bus driver have any prior martial arts, military, police experience? NONE. How do you explain that? How?
Have another 1
My son in school was being picked on by a boy who was bigger than him (then not now cause the boy wants no part of my son). He decided to poke him with a pencil. My son asked him to stop. Repeatedly. The boy went to put my son in a headlock and succeeded. My son threw a lock of his own then continued his attack by throwing the boy to the ground. The bully released the lock and opened his hands so he can break his fall and not his face. SELF PRESERVATION for the bully and a quick, instinctive reaction by my son. Oh and by the way, I wasn’t teaching my son at the time. He knew the smart things to do and it was part of his SELF PRESERVATION SYSTEM.
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P.S. You forgot to mention that adrenaline rushes cause a stupefying effect on the body conditioning when it has not become instinct (alot harder to do than training in a variety of atmospheres and terrains) or the mind has not been conditioned to perform during the extreme atmosphere thus created
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I am an: EGOTISTICAL, OVERCONFIDENT type of person? No. Because I just proved the very things I have stated. You can go into books, Wikipedia like you mentioned I should…on TAI CHI, which some martial artist put up not a scientist that can prove the very things I stated. Are there things that can not be explained? Sure.
Oh, and yes i have tried sticky hands. It modified so I can use it athletically and as a gross/complex motor set. Not like in WING CHUN. I actually use tactile sensitivity. Meaning as soon as I feel something I act on it.It doesn’t have to be pressure either. As long as I feel something I can act on it.
I hope I haven’t gone on a rant here.
Let me say this and I am not saying my system is so unique that no one has done anything like it.
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I have checked your website out, and much of the stuff discussed is known to me
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Really? Like what? How can my material that you just read by common knowledge to you? I just read it to make sure I didnt miss anything on my site. Primal instincts. Thats common knowledge to you? You just said repeatedly that you have to have trained for the situations we talked about. STRIKE 1. Non-telegraphic movements. Common knowledge you say. We may say it but all the styles you mentioned are telegraphed. STRIKE 2. You talk about style after style and not once did you mention anything on cerebral training connecting to physical defense. I mentioned that on my site yet again to you, common knowledge. STRIKE 3.My Madden I am not here to stroke my chicken and make others look foolish for the gain of my own (or lack of) confidence, ego, or make me feel better.
I want to touch on just 1 more thing:
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The basic strategies and utilization of gross motor philosophy is great especially if coupled with force manipulation, which everyone does inherently (as in tai-chi, which i practice on a daily basis now….AKA grace). After only 6 months of training in jeet kun do, my sensei told me I would need no further training. Why? He said “once one knows the basics (gross motor) and trains their body into grace, daily routines in slow motion (as in tai-chi) embed the philosophies into your muscles”
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TOBY, how old are you? You keep talking about SENSI. Gross motor sets does not train your body into GRACE. It makes it fluid. Fluidity is what you meant. You will move faster because you understand the movement. That goes with anything. The more you do it the faster you become. Doing it slow does not embody it into you (unless I dont understand what he meant). The slower you do things the more the body can move FLUIDLY. Fluidity transfers into easiness and thus creating speed. Then from speed you have power. You can never get power then speed.Did you look at Lee’s stories of when his students learned his material in 6 months (not all but whatever he was teaching n that span of time) and they went on to kick a bunch of black belts asses? Mind you this is the 60’s so go with what was being done at THAT TIME. But they were doing patterns as oppose to natural movements that the body wants/needs to do not what you want to do.
Neil Neazer
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Hi all,
I’ve read the Captain Chris website and, unlike most of the people that have made a comment, I have only a handful of Krav Maga lessons under my belt, therefore his training is aimed at people like me, so I thought I’d offer my opinion.
I think the first, and possibly biggest issue I have with the website is that a lot of the claims seem a little ambitious at best.“If you’d like to know how even someone who is slow, out-of-shape and has zero self defense experience can, in one hour or less, know more about surviving brutal street attacks than most black belt karate masters…”.
I’m assuming he means that they will have a more realistic idea with regard to street fighting, but it still seems a bit of a strong boast.
The other problem I have is that it seems like a really hard sell aimed to pressure people into buying the product. Surely the site should speak for itself? And making reference to professional assassins undermines his claims – It makes it all sound a bit like something written by a 14-year-old boy with a ninja obsession. The same with his “World leader in Self-Defence” boast. To be completely fair though, he doesn’t claim to be an expert in marketing, etc, and I’m sure he could pay someone to smooth over some of the rough edges and make it look a little more professional.
My overall feeling though is that he gives the impression that no effort is required (very rare in any aspect of life, let alone a life-threatening situation), and that you’ll be able to dis-arm and disable a much bigger and more agressive attacker. My concern is that it would instill a false sense in people and cause them to do something that could make any dangerous situation worse.
Ronin, this isn’t an attack on your views – How someone with your experience can use the moves on the DVDs would be massively different to a novice, and I think that’s the problem most of the people on this site seem to have. If you’re able to use the moves and incorporate them into your teaching, then I doubt anyone has an issue with it. Also, if you’re built like a line-backer (I’m not American, but I understand that makes you only slightly smaller than a bear), the moves on the DVD would work very well with that much power behind them.
Anyway, as a novice myself, my views may mean nothing, but a different point of view sometimes helps.
Cheers.
Mike.
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Hi All,
Before getting bogged down in the debate surrounding Captain Chris, I would like to give you an insight into myself.
I am a 28 year old member of an elite team in the UK that have served in Afghanistan and various other war torn nations.
I am fully trained in the following list of Chinese martial arts and have various certification that recognises me an ultimate warrior in these arts:Bafaquan
Baguazhang
Bajiquan
Bak Mei
Black Tiger Kung Fu
Chaquan
Dachengquan
Ditangquan
Do Pi Kung Fu
Dragon Kung Fu
Five Ancestors
Five Animals
Fujian White Crane
Fu Jow Pai
Fut Gar
Gouquan
Hakka Kuen
Hong Cha
Hop Gar
Houquan
Heihuquan
Hsing-i Ch’uan
Jeet Kune Do
Jing Wu Men
Jing Quan Do
Jow-Ga Kung Fu
Kuntao
Lau Gar
Lai-Ga-Sau
Lai Tung Pai
Lama Pai
Leopard Kung Fu
Li Gar
Liu Seong Kuntao
Liuhebafa Chuan
Luohan Quan
Mei Hua Quan
Mian Quan
Mizongyi
Mok Gar
Monkey Kung Fu
Paochui
Piguaquan
Shaolin Quan
Shuai Chiao
Tai Chi Chuan
Tantui
Tibetan White Crane
Tongbeiquan
White Crane
Wing Chun
Wudangquan
Yingzhaoquan
Yuejiaquan
Yiquan
Zi Ran MenI am now a freelance soldier and work under the assumed name of ‘Jonny coco’ although anyone wishing to contact me for advice on my areas of expertise should send me an email to:
Unlike ‘Captain’ Chris (Come on who is this guy trying to fool – AND Rip Off) with his phony website. I have recorded several DVDs that I am willing to send to people for free. All you need to do is contact me at my email address and I will send you an MPEG/AVI file of the requested material.
I have produced 4 feature length DVDs that showcase various different martial arts and if you want all 4 I can help you to learn many of the fighting techniques listed above.
Unless like the captain, I won’t make false promises that you can learn these arts in a weekend – what a ludicrous claim, but I will instead illustrate the importance of things like healthy diet and I even share some of my secret Chinese remedies with viewers that can give the user explosive strength and ‘warrior like’ anger for use when you most need it.
I don’t want to take up too much space on this forum but please send me an email to the address clearly shown above and in the title field please include the following:Request for Warrior secrets and Chinese fighting Techniques
This way I will know not to delete it prior to reading.
Many Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon.
Jonny ‘Warrior’ Coco
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Glen S said on December 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pm
You know I think I’ve walked away from every “fight” I could have gotten into after the 9th grade. I don’t care about “face”, what people think and I treat people well so it doesn’t come up much. I was jumped twice in my life.
In 9th grade I had 5 guys attack me in a place where I was completely alone along side a concrete irrigation ditch. It was a short cut on way home from school and I left school early and was surprised by these guys. I was hit quite a bit with one guy targeting my kidneys from behind. I was small, about 5′5″ and 130 pounds. Did not grow until Junior year. Any way I could only think or react to the guy in front of me and I was swinging wild with no technique probably missing 99% of the punches. But the guy was backing up. So I am getting hit and it hurts but doesn’t really register adrenaline. I realize that this guy is going right towards the ditch. So I drive him into the ditch he falls backwards, I run down and up the other side. I scale the brick wall, stop, yell all kinds of crap at these dude and then run 2 miles home. Fat lips , hey I had huge buck teeth at time but no broken jaw cause teeth clenched, sore back and some scratches.
I was lucky sure, but I had no time to react with any technique and I did not know any anyway. I think the important thing is to act and be aggressive. After that I vowed if something like ever happened again I try to kill the bastards. It did happen again different dudes, car broken down walking home inner city 4 years later. I stood out. But you know what, I came out of a worse situation even better than the first time because I aggressively defended myself and was bigger and stronger. (I wish I’d had a cell phone back then never would have walked, but there were no such thing then).
So, May be I get a false sense of confidence from surviving these situations and a lot of weight lifting. But never really had issues. Then I have kids and I start to worry about what I’d do if something happens and I gotta protect them. I take grappling classes and they are teaching us 6 arts. But most everything is on the ground. I have my dad come watch one day in his 60’s and he says well that looks like fun but how you gonna roll around like that on the concrete in a real fight? Why didn’t I think of that? I’m thinking this grappling stuff is gonna save my but and my family but I broke a rib once doing take downs on the mat and never even thought about how I could hurt myself taking someone down on the concrete let alone the bad guy or his buddies hurting me while I’m wresting around with him.
So I discovered Captain Chris videos on the internet. And it actually made sense to me so I ordered the dvd’s and watched them all. I feel like I may have paid too much for this knowledge and I can see how very little of it would help me in the cage or a ring. But I’m not interested in fighting there. Don’t really want to fight at all. But I can see how finger darts, chin jabs, tiger claw, shin kicks, and elbow can help me quite a bit. And the constantly moving forward until your assailant is immobile, running away, or my family is safely out of there can work when I am alone and got no one to help me.
I had been to three different “schools” before I got Captain Chris videos. They never taught me self defense but 2 of the schools produce many famous fighters I can PPV to watch on Saturdays. I ask to learn self defense and I hear that Krav Maga is great. No schools around to teach that within 100 miles. They tell me that if I keep going to class I’ll learn it. But actual self defense I think is boring for instructors to teach so they teach grappling and moves and stuff. The grappling is pretty damn good for my conditioning and strength. My knees are shot at 40 and I’m not so good at take downs but have learned to stuff a take down and a few trips and a couple of throws. I know arm bars, and chokes and if I’m jumped and could pull one of those off to protect my self or family I would do so in a heartbeat.
But when I show my classmates this stuff from Captain Chris they actually get real quiet and pay attention. And the more advanced students actually show me ways to improve or correctly do some of the techniques and they have never seen the DVD’s. The truth is there is some good principles involved in the DVD’s. It is not complete, but what is? I see the guy posting above me is an expert in 56 martial arts. So its obvious from that he feels no one art is the answers to everything and Captain Chris DVD’s can not answer every situation but it has helped me and my kids.
And buy the way my 105 pound wife can chop me with edge of hand a hell of a lot faster and harder than she can punch me with her muay thai strikes.
My 2 cents. Glen S.
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Hey Glen, good story. I liked the fact that you were able to get through a tough, make that 2, situations. It is true about what your father said about the grappling but understand that it may help for just moving on the ground and not necessarily to grappling period. That would be a complete idiotic move. Aggression is a great tool to use in a fight especially if focused but but how focused can you be when you’re getting fist to the head? And yes (I am by no means a big grappling fan) grappling is great for endurance and for breathing so thats cool too. But the big chop that C.C. shows will not work in a street altercation because if the attacker can see it, he can stop it. Then your wife will be in a worse scenario than when it 1st started. A forearm shot to the neck is powerful but you have to get it there and by standing there letting her put it on is false training and a bad way to help her gain faith and confidence in her ability to save her life and your kids. Remember: YOUR WIFE IS THE BODYGUARD TO YOUR KIDS WHEN YOU ARE NOT THERE.
Thanks Glen for your part in this forum
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Hi.
I landed on this Chris guy training page and I have to say, the fact that he received so much screen time is a disgrace.
These uncontrolled movements create what we in the real street fighting business like to call “A false sense of security”. It means that if a woman leaves a session with the understanding she can save herself from an assailant by using nothing more than a Karate Chop, her sense of personal security goes up. HOWEVER, this feeling of power will quickly fade when big bad man, who is now much angrier, will punch her in the face, close fist of course.
Worse-off, claiming to be teaching mercenaries is probably the most idiotic claim I’ve heard in the fitness world. And that includes the “Hawaii chair” (google it for a good laugh)
I have been teaching Krav Maga in NYC for the past 10 years. I have taught Israeli Special Ops units as well as the US Navy Seals.
I teach women self defense, based on the Krav Maga system.
In Krav Maga (much like in real life) the attacker fights back, he grabs you hard, he pulls your hair, he chokes your neck, he punches everywhere, he bites. He will use a baseball bat, a steak knife, a gun, a hammer. He uses his size, weight, anger, aggression and many times psychosis to cause damage. A simple karate chop or a series of hysterical movements would simply not suffice.
Krav Maga is extremely simplified and instinctual, but accuracy is key. Taking our built in instincts and improving them, sharpening them is crucial.
Bruce Lee said : I fear not the man who practiced 10,000 different kicks once. I fear the man who practiced one kick 10,000 times.My site is http://www.defitness.com
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JeremyVA said on December 4th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Hey came across mr C.C and just wanted to add 2 cents myself, yea i personaly think he is chock full o bull ive seen kids do a better job at defending them selves yea he is right about the elbow when approached from behind if you sense that is going to happen the element of suprise can be on your side but dont just blindly thrust your elbow hit him in the for head yea thats going to smart the throat is very vulnerable, crush it he dies or hit it just hard enough and he wont be able to breath wich gives you a window to run away from the situation, strike the nose or chin will stun them giving you time for a follow up, but if the guy surprises you then thats another story if you have no formal training like me yea that would cause me to freeze up for a few id admit it but you need to gather yourself quickly work on your reflects always remember the hand is faster than the eye once his eyes move from you eyes then its go time, most of these punks have no training except how them and 5 buddies beat down the bum 3 alleys down the block. and no you never want to end up on the ground but yes ground fighting(wrestling, chokes holds etc) are something that needs to be learned cause if you go “ape pounding” or sissy slapping as i call it they dude is taking your ass to the ground and where the hell did the good captain get that these moves are unstopable??? ok you chop at me im stomping your knee cap if your going to successfully sissy slap some one you better have the speed and ass to back it up, if your that confident that his preview moves shown above will work then byfar go to your local dojo fight school mma arena etc and try it out on them when your ass is handed to you, you might realize how lame they are, oh and spear finger wtf is that um what happend to the good ol eye gouge thats simple and my opinion of a “gross movement” is a good fart im guessing he got his science degree from kmart aswell as his martial arts degree, yea he is trying to scam you but thats good ol american “trash” marketing for you he falls in the same catagory as the make your penis bigger and loose weight with more useless junk late night bs tv adds, and no as mentioned i have no martial arts training unless you want to call the 3 months of karate i took when i was in 1st grade with a decent instructor jimmy horseley (used to kick box perfessionaly) some may know of him, this guy was tough and trained all his life he came home one night and was met by a gun toting thug that robbed him on the spot he admitted to doing nothing about it so even the most trained can freeze up its mainly like i said the element of surprise its a bitch if you dont have it and no ive not been in alot of confrontations just a few but to tell this guy is bs is just common sense no man in their right mind would sissy slap another man and expect them to go down, and heres another tid bit when i played football in school we did neck bends with all of our body weight to strengthen them so no i dont beleive a 80lb 5ft tall girl can push me around by my chin your leaving youself wide open with that also a good way to get that elbow broke there is not clean fight nor fair fight you survive any wich way you can wether you beat them with a stick bare fist or rip their eyes out survival is survival plain and simple, but a point in favor of our chop o holic has anyone purchased and watched all of his dvds? cause there could actually be some correct and useful info on them, highly doubt it but possibly its just a gimmic “HE TALKED TO THE LAST SAMURAI” yea must have talked to tom cruise, if his stuff was all that great he wouldnt basically be begging you to buy his stuff offering you all of these extra items and even knocking off all that money,yea so what do infomercials do at the end they double the product and drop the price its basically hyptnotism notice all the bold and underlined junk? and to the dance teaching sir, has he honestly hired you to promote for him, if not your doing a good job convincing me that its bs even more, and dude grabbing a 14 y/o girl and dragging her around while she screams is not the brightest thing to do yea you may have been testing her but OJ DIDNT DO IT EITHER, see what i mean and just cause you sissy slap a bag doesn mean anything, in the words of rodney carrington ill beat the shit outta a smart ass with no arms” there is your bag, personally i dont have time or money or time to train so i was almost tempted to give it a try but then i blinked and snapped out of the bs coma and realized how stupid it was, im a delivery driver by perfession i go into some of the shittiest places in my state and im constantly watching my back since im 20 and not eligable for a side arm and concealed permit i keep a brass knuckle and a very sharp karambit on my side at all times, and yea a karambit is a good tool to have no its not invincible nor will make you super man but its a little more difficult to disarm and is edged on both sides so while your stabbing jabbing or for some sissy slapping your attacker you will be leaving puncture wounds and gashes all over him and if your in a kill or be killed attack the attacker will most likely be guarding his chest and neck so the underarm conceals and main vein wich if severed bleeds out quick roughly 1 to 2 minutes but seriously hopefuly nobody will fall for this and i might have helped a few people sure id love to know how to do a simple trick to defend myself but i cant afford lessons so i do what i can always keep a sharp eye and try and plan things if a situation were to arise also neil and the colum admin have you guys ever hear of alex stone? is he bs like the bad ass captain? and neil ill be looking at you site soon when i get the extra time to also i appologise if i have offended anyone and before anybody says it yes im basicaly a teen at 20 y/o and no i dont think i know it all so if anybody has any useful advice or books/vids that arent exspensive nor fake idiotic moves that you would teach to someone trying to swim please let me know cause picking a apple and putting it in your pocket wont save your life neither will swinging blindly or whailing your arms around like a mental patient and heres another idea anybody know about pressure points??? just a thought Jeremy from VA
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Frank said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:37 am
“Captain Chris”… What a joke.
I’m 18, 5′10 and about 86 kilo. I’ve been boxing for 7 years, Muay Thai for 6 and did a series of different Japanese/Chinese martial arts previously including Karate, and Wing Chun Kung Fu. I can hold my own against most people, whether they are larger or smaller than me. My cousin is an Ex-SASR operator who served with US SFOD-D 1st (You guys might know them as CIA field operators and Delta Force) and UK SBS (Essentially, the best Special Forces on the planet) during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan in 2001 and several other tours in Oruzgan province in 2004/2006. He taught me a lot of CQB drills employed by NATO SoF and Captain dickhead touches on none of them in reality.
The best experience you can ever get is simply getting in the ring and fighting with full force, another human being. Where all the protective gear if you like. But make sure you learn and understand what it is to be attacked by someone with intent to harm. Never go to ground unless you are a competent grappler.
Simple stuff….
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Frank said on December 21st, 2009 at 3:38 am
“Where all the protective gear if you like.”
I meant to say “wear”… Thought I’d better clear that up
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FlawedCynic said on December 25th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
I find his website embarassing, highly irresponsible and severely stupid. Any person that thinks wailing your arms like a banshee is gonna stop an attacker dead set on beating the hell out of you (or worse) is a moron.
About me, I have a little over 7 years martial arts training in Taekwondo. A number of my masters have trained various police, security and military forces in unarmed combat. One of my masters is even a Vietnam vet. He claims martial arts do not prepare you for a real life scenario but what does he abse this on? Does he even know that many of the older traditional martial arts are still used by their respective countries for use in real combat?
If traditional styles aren’t your thing, Systema is an excellent fighting art. So are Krav Maga and Jeet Kune Do (though this is tricky and many schools simply teach Wing-Chun with Jiu-Jitsu masked as JKD). Bottom line all people need to steer clear of this joker.
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TV said on January 5th, 2010 at 11:12 am
I really want to comment for any female reading these posts who is even slightly unsure of the best way to defend yourself esspecialy against a male attacker. Teaching women to swing their arms at an attacker would not be the best way to defend in my oppinion.
Im 6 foot 2 and 105kg there arnt too many femails my size. Any woman attempting to fight for their life by striking blows with her arms would surly be hurt in the end but the attacket if it is a bigger man.
If you think about what i am about to say you will realise that its true. BECAUSE the first reaction of the man would be to defend his head with his arms and push away and grab at the female fighting back. I know this will offend many women who do martial arts but seriously i dont care how much training you have if you are half my size slaming your for arms into mine (which i would naturaly raise to protect my head by instinct) or the top of my head or my sholders would do very little damage. And this post is not for women who are highly traind its for the rest of the population. The second the attacker is able to get the smallest hold of one of your arms or a part of your clothing the woman would be un able to club and almost out of options. If he was violent and you can assume he would be he would grab you and hold you on your wrist or arms or hold with one arm and bash you with the other.
IT TRULY SEEMS DANGEROUS TO GIVE PEOPLE THE SENSE THAT THEY WILL WIN ANY BATTLE LIKE THIS as eventualy you will needto stop attacking or the attacker will push you off giving them time to reasses the situation. The second the larger man has both arms restrained the last and only option is a knee, that’s if you can do it before he realsese you are trying to knee him and adjusts his hold on you so you cant.The first and only thing i would recomend for any female train or untrained when being attacked would be go straight for the eyes or genitals and/or bite and scream and never stop trying to do as much pain as possible (hence eyes and genitals).
I say this with full confidance IF i wanted to overpower any woman (which i would never do as i despise people that hurt others for any reason but self defence or sport) the only way 90%+ of them could stop me would be threw practical critical pain inflicting strikes. Eyes, genitals, biting and possibly trought is they could.
Women attacked by men are almost always smaller and weaker than their attacker. As soon as they have one good hold on you you are basically stuffed as we posess far more streingth (generally) and would restrain or beat you into submition if that was the goal.
To any woman that reads this and i guess guys to becasue any one can be attacked. Inflict as much pain as possible with minimal technique, Eyes, throught if you can hit hard enough, genitals and biting are the best way to stop an attach and that is really your only goal so you can escape. Forarm pounding would have very little effect on me agains my own forarms if you were half my size and eventually i would be able to grab you or push you off enought to reasses the situation and if my intention was to rape some one i would probably attack you again due to the fact i would have sustained very little injury and am now prepaired for your attack and probably going to be attacking back my self this time.
Maximum pain minimun technique is always the common sense way of self defence for any untraind fighter.
Even the worlds best fighters would win or end a fight far faster with an eye gouge or groin strike than all the other training they do. Why do you think its almost always baned in MMA and UFC because it is so very easy to do massive irriparible dammage and cause massive incapasitating pain.
Well thats my opinion and i challange any one to enlighten me on any technique/attack etc that could get you out of a dangerous sittuation more effectivly.
TV
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David Hawisher said on January 25th, 2010 at 11:42 am
This guy makes me sick. I just want to show a couple of the things wrong with his site.
1The entire section that follows, which happens to be a direct quote.How to toss ANY man right on his head… and break his arm on the way down if you choose to do so. (I don’t care if you only weigh 90 pounds soaking wet, either—as you’ll see, your physical size has nothing to do with it.)
A 2-hit combination GUARANTEED to shatter your attacker’s jaw… every single time. (Six months of dental surgery and he MIGHT be able to talk and actually stand trial.)
Incredible “military tricks” that will take you from absolute rookie to a master fighter in just a few short hours.
Why a simple change in your “mindset” will mean the difference between being the prey or being the predator when surrounded by thugs, gang members and other scum on the street.
How to snatch a loaded gun right out of a “Gangsta’s” hand so damn fast it will literally tear his trigger finger off! (And then immediately—without even thinking about it—cave his chest in without skipping a beat.)
Single escape and takedown moves that require no strength whatsoever. (Perfect to teach your kids and wife… or to use when you’re hurt or attacked by bigger guys pumped up with pain-numbing drugs and rage!)
How to immediately win a fight if you find yourself on the ground with a bigger opponent on top of you. (And without screwing around with that “tap-out” B.S. you see on TV.)
How to control the “shakes” and super-hot adrenaline dump that occurs during tense, violent situations! (You’ll be cool, smooth and effective no matter how confusing things get… just the opposite of how most men react!)
The one “basic” mistake even cops and soldiers make (despite their expensive training) that erases their “training advantage” in a street fight. (And how to make sure YOU never fall victim to it yourself.)
How to lock “new” combat information into your long-term memory and nervous system.
How to get away from a larger attacker who surprises you. (It’s instantaneous, keeps you safe from any blows, and puts him so “off-balanced” he’s toast for your next move. And the beauty is… the bigger he is, the easier it is for you to do this!)
Vicious, stomach-churning (but simple) moves that allow you to “lead” him by his chin all the way to the ground… hard. (His body goes where you lead it, like a lifeless slab of meat—letting you control and humiliate even the biggest and toughest street punk on the block with ease.)
How to take a strong, oversized man down easily… without using any fancy grappling or wrestling moves.
The 8 “tactical” combat coordinates you must know to win a violent encounter against any attacker—including the horrendous “Hollywood” mistakes most people make that get them seriously hurt or killed. (Some of the “normal tendencies” you have are 100% wrong!)
How to break up the most common street attacks with a single, simple move. (Instantly “cancels out” anything an experienced street fighter can throw at you.)
Exactly how to instantly put down anyone who walks up to you and grabs your shirt, ready to bash your face in. (This is the single most common attack in bars, parties, and other places where people with lots of “liquid courage” inside them cause trouble.)
How to make someone who tries to choke you literally drown in his own spit. (Frankly, you have to see this one to believe it—it’s that incredible.)
How even a 105 pound girl can snap a big guy’s wrist or elbow like a stale pretzel rod.
How to spin an attacker around when he grabs, pushes, or reaches—take his back—and LIGHTS OUT!
The “Shake & Bake” principle of violent aggression. This is how you can exponentially multiply the viciousness of ANY choke or joint lock.
What to do if your attacker is simply TOO BIG.
How to inflict unbearable pain to shut off his brain while you end the fight.
Plus much, MUCH more…And
2. He is trying to make money off of terrorism:
“And I KNOW the kind of crazy shit that’s about to hit the fan in our country. I’ve seen statistics, reports and projections that would quite frankly cause a nation-wide panic if everyone knew the truth.”And I just have one question: What would happen if two people trained in his system that “can’t fail”, fought each other?
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big dave said on January 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I took some three day seminars with Tim Larkin who is teaching the Target focus system and it really changed my perception of violence and how to handle it.
The deliver it all online now at streetcombat.com
As for the question of two people who are both trained in these “can’t fail” systems meeting each other, the answer is: Whoever gets the first injury.
This reminds me of something that I have always wanted to try: I want to get a dehumidifier and a humidifier and seal them in the same room and let them just fight it out.
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